Best Winter in 10 years...
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HVdad
February 8, 2021
Member since 01/9/2018 🔗
96 posts
The big elephant in the room is that despite a horrific pandemic, combined with woefully dire predictions for the 20/21 ski season, the conditions in the mid-Atlantic have been just about the best they've been in ten years. Go figure. Ski happy everyone!!!
snowsmith - DCSki Supporter 
February 8, 2021
Member since 03/15/2004 🔗
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I agree. I skied today at HV and the conditions were superb. The natural snow trails at Laurel mountain were open this past weekend. They even groomed Dream Highway! And there is more snow predicted for tomorrow. Enjoy it while you can. Weather models do not indicate that an end is in sight for the short term. However, we know that at some point it will warm up and... :rain (yuck)!

 

HVdad wrote:

The big elephant in the room is that despite a horrific pandemic, combined with woefully dire predictions for the 20/21 ski season, the conditions in the mid-Atlantic have been just about the best they've been in ten years. Go figure. Ski happy everyone!!!
Keith_Moon
February 9, 2021
Member since 02/19/2019 🔗
207 posts

I can't speak for PA but for many parts south the amount of snow that has fallen this season has actually been under average.  What has made it so great is that we haven't seen any prolonged periods of higher temperatures so far, so most of what has fallen has not melted and at the same time resorts have been able to make artificial snow on top of that.  Some resorts, notably Sugar and Beech, HAVE seen natural snowfall levels above average; both are at about 3' over a typical year so far.

In any case, it's certainly been a fantastic season so far.  It looks like a little rain might fall this week in NC but then we'll be back to colder temps and snowfall for the weekend.

imp - DCSki Supporter 
February 9, 2021
Member since 01/11/2007 🔗
301 posts
more snow in the woods since 2010, dream highway groomed for first time since 2003. rocky corner still a little rocky
needawax
February 9, 2021
Member since 04/19/2019 🔗
44 posts

I concur.  I haven't seen anything quite like this since 2010/2011.  I'm talking Laurel, HV, Springs.  Enjoy it, folks!

Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter 
February 9, 2021
Member since 08/16/2004 🔗
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 imp wrote:

more snow in the woods since 2010, dream highway groomed for first time since 2003. rocky corner still a little rocky

Best snow in the Laurels in a decade and what luck, we have to deal with covid! At least all that work our volunteers put in over the last few years is finally paying off. I don't think Dream Highway would have been groomed this season had we not brushed it back, cut down the saplings, and cleared all the overhanging branches. Doc's Forest didn't seem so tight when we cleared it. Now I regret not having some glade clearing parties last fall to redd up more of the old glade. Wouldn't you love to ski the Goat?

snowsmith - DCSki Supporter 
February 9, 2021
Member since 03/15/2004 🔗
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 LHC  there is 7s version of the trail map, then there is LHC's. Would it be possible for you to do a trail map markup so we know where some of these historic trails are located. That would be very cool.

Laurel Hill Crazie wrote:

 imp wrote:

more snow in the woods since 2010, dream highway groomed for first time since 2003. rocky corner still a little rocky

Best snow in the Laurels in a decade and what luck, we have to deal with covid! At least all that work our volunteers put in over the last few years is finally paying off. I don't think Dream Highway would have been groomed this season had we not brushed it back, cut down the saplings, and cleared all the overhanging branches. Doc's Forest didn't seem so tight when we cleared it. Now I regret not having some glade clearing parties last fall to redd up more of the old glade. Wouldn't you love to ski the Goat?

Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter 
February 10, 2021
Member since 08/16/2004 🔗
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I'll see what I can do but most of the trails I talk about are hiding in plain sight. Find a Mowl era map and Snow Bowl is marked right under the chair lift. The Kitty Cats were never on a map that I've seen but on the mountain, there they are between Laurel Run and Snow Bowl. Doc's Forest Glade was the first glade to appear on a recent trail map but I just realized that it is no longer on the current trail map. Find a map from 2016/2017 to find Doc's. If you know where the stone wall that carried the first towpath is then Doc's is on the other side between Broadway and Lincoln Highway. Doc's was named for the man who led the ski school after WW 2 then later became Laurel's general manager until the ski area was given to the state. Doc DesRoches and his family lived on the mountain year-round first in Midway Cabin then later at the original Laurel House summit lodge. Doc, his wife, and children cleared the glades in the late 1950s and early 60s. Find some trail maps from that era and you'll see glades all over the mountain all simply called Forest Slalom. Oh, the Goat (not that great but cheating QB) is no more, overgrown with saplings and huge fallen trees. 

snowsmith wrote:


 LHC  there is 7s version of the trail map, then there is LHC's. Would it be possible for you to do a trail map markup so we know where some of these historic trails are located. That would be very cool.

Laurel Hill Crazie wrote:

 imp wrote:

more snow in the woods since 2010, dream highway groomed for first time since 2003. rocky corner still a little rocky

Best snow in the Laurels in a decade and what luck, we have to deal with covid! At least all that work our volunteers put in over the last few years is finally paying off. I don't think Dream Highway would have been groomed this season had we not brushed it back, cut down the saplings, and cleared all the overhanging branches. Doc's Forest didn't seem so tight when we cleared it. Now I regret not having some glade clearing parties last fall to redd up more of the old glade. Wouldn't you love to ski the Goat?

RodneyBD - DCSki Supporter 
February 10, 2021
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HVdad
February 10, 2021
Member since 01/9/2018 🔗
96 posts

Here's a trail map from long ago that is consistent with the historical aerial photos of LM that I've found on the web.  Will post those next...1613002134_vmydjhsksado.jpg

HVdad
February 10, 2021
Member since 01/9/2018 🔗
96 posts

Here's an aerial photo of Laurel Mountain Slopes from 1952. You can clearly make out the "upper open slope" that is referenced on the map in my previous post, as well as upper and lower Wildcat. It's also apparent that there was either a lift, or at least a lift line cut, that descended all the way down to the lowest part of the property (upper left of photo). This would have added several hundred feet to the vertical.1613002943_grgcfxcorpzu.jpg 

Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter 
February 11, 2021
Member since 08/16/2004 🔗
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Thanks, HVdad for that fascinating 1952 aerial photo. I've never seen that one. I do have some aerial photos of the mountain before the trails were cut. I have a photo of an old trail map that shows the trail and rope tow that extends down to Rolling Rock Creek. I'll have to find that and post it here. I was saving it for an article I planned to write about that very topic, the lost trail that long time Laurel locals called Schneider's old trail. Don't tell the Mellon Foundation but I hiked the old tow line down to Rolling Rock and tried to figure out how the old trail lay on the mountain.  If Hannes Schneider's original trail were to be fully restored what a fun run it would be as it twists and dips down 1000+ vertical feet. Don't hold your breath.
Laurel Hill Crazie - DCSki Supporter 
February 18, 2021
Member since 08/16/2004 🔗
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 HVdad wrote:

Here's an aerial photo of Laurel Mountain Slopes from 1952. You can clearly make out the "upper open slope" that is referenced on the map in my previous post, as well as upper and lower Wildcat. It's also apparent that there was either a lift, or at least a lift line cut, that descended all the way down to the lowest part of the property (upper left of photo). This would have added several hundred feet to the vertical.1613002943_grgcfxcorpzu.jpg

I finally found that old trail map. I can't make out the date either 1946 maybe 1948. Laurel had about 1000 vertical feet in the post-WW2 era. I'm not sure when they stopped skiing Schneider's old trail.

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HVdad
February 19, 2021
Member since 01/9/2018 🔗
96 posts
Amazing. Using the measuring device on Google Maps, I estimate that if a chairlift were to be installed from the very bottom to the top it would be over a mile long!!!
snowsmith - DCSki Supporter 
February 28, 2021
Member since 03/15/2004 🔗
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Well, DCSKI folks, it looks like our extremely wonderful weather pattern has come to an end and our dreary Mid-Atlantic weather pattern has returned. I have to say the conditions at times were ‘western-like’ this winter.  I had a few local powder days and enjoyed having 100% of the terrain open for so long. We may be spoiled by this winter. Skiing on groomed Dream Highway at LM, a trail that had not been groomed since 2003, was pretty special. And just skiing on the natural snow terrain at LM made me feel like I was skiing somewhere other than Pennsylvania. And consider that we weren’t sure if the resorts would even open this year with the pandemic raging! Instead, people flocked to ski areas for some safe, socially distance recreation. Yes, a very unusual year!
bousquet19 - DCSki Supporter 
March 1, 2021
Member since 02/23/2006 🔗
784 posts

Agreed, Snowsmith!

Grateful for what we've had here in the Mid-Atlantic so far, and still hoping for more.

Woody

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