Not a water problem. Perhaps a willpower problem?
Scott, how about an interview with Mr. Baker, the GM who is in his second winter at CVR? Maybe there are some positives that we aren't seeing or hearing about?
It looks like they diverting the resources to the tubing park. The mountain cam looking back at the base lodge you see the fan guns in the background going.
I hope they can expansion the terrain for open day.
I agree, even though Blackwater has the sledding hill. Canaan can market a lot more with tubing, lodging and the ski area as a package deal. It seems like they don't mind that T-Line is the go to spot now and like being the alternative for the crowds.
snapdragon wrote:
tubing park is a moneymaker...resort is deemed open if b slope is skiing...imho their onsite weather monitoring station is their greatest asset
snapdragon wrote:
tubing park is a moneymaker...resort is deemed open if b slope is skiing...imho their onsite weather monitoring station is their greatest asset
Sorry … b slope? 🤷♂️
Woody
Thanks snapdragon. 👍
Woody
Can we just say that CV is great on a powder day and their operations are lacking all the way around? I used to love coming here, but the management and infrastructure for snowmaking have always been the two biggest problems. Their lifts are fine. They can keep being mediocre because the rest of the resort excels and they have great deals on lift tickets and kids ski free up to a certain age. This brings in just enough revenue to be sustainable.
If the state can spend 8 million dollars on a Dopplemayr Pulse Gondola for one or both at Pipestem and Hawks Nest, I do not see why they cannot commit to one of their biggest and baddest parks.....
While I have been going off and on to the valley for nearly 30 years of my life, I can say that Timberline will always be king! It is one of my favorite mountains of all time and my home mountain. CV just needs to get a boost in quality. It is sad that they rejected Mr. Price's offer, but their loss....
Just curious if anyone knows the pumping capacity for snowmaking for Canaan. Between the tubing park and open terrain, I'm surprised more terrain isn't open for opening weekend especially with the cold temps.
As a side note, I thought it is interesting they are using deceptive advertising by saying they have 100% snowmaking coverage on all 26 trails. Hmmm, after comparing the trail map and daily trail reports. They decided to eliminate 20 trails this year and increase their snowmaking coverage from 75%, lol.
C'mon Canaan!
SeniorSki wrote:
You should give Timberline a try. The senior ticket for 65+ is $69. What's less obvious are the "credits." The credits are automatically applied at the end of the day when lifts close. Can get more than one credit for a given day. For instance, if start skiing after 12:30 on Mon, Tue, or Wed, and quit before 4:30, then qualify for three $10 credits. Net cost for the day becomes $39. Can't beat that!
Credits are stored on the associated Gift Card connected to the RFID lift access card and are good for resort food, or even another lift ticket. Credits do not expire. At least I've been able to use credits from more than a year earlier.
Canaan and Blue knob have always been my favorites only when 100% open with a good natural snow base otherwise the drive is not worth it. Unfortunately this only happens a few times a year on spotty years too. I have never been to TL and it looks fabulous. TL will be grabbing most of the traffic if your going to the valley odds are you will go to TL. I still have the desire to go to Canaan, great pricing, a very good senior deal, the other resort senior deals are basically non-existent, another topic for another day. Just waiting on a good base and then a good dump. I can live with Canaan staying low key. Look at Snowshoe, very successful but their crowds are ridiculous. Who wants to spend north of a 100 bucks to stand in line for 30 min. They really need to do something about the Ballhooter lift.So let’s hope for a good snow season, so looking forward to Canaan glades
I agree with MarzNC, after Epic Fails with VR for four years, I couldn't justify the cost for the lack of effort to get their resorts open. TLine is my home now. If you are looking for the fancy village atmosphere and activities after the slopes close. This isn't for you. If you are here for skiing or boarding with excellent condition and friendly crowds and staff and small town charm. Come join us.
Canaan is the stepchild to TLine, and a good place to avoid the crowds that might some hit Tline on weekends. Just wish the state of WV would put some money into the area to improve on mountain infrastructure.
SeniorSki wrote:
We tried to get over to CV last season however the natural snow cover was awful. It is only good with a solid covering, they can open a lot of trails with a decent snow event but it skied off quickly and the natural trails close quickly. You can’t beat their pricing, especially for seniors, it is like 22 bucks off an already low rate. Plus I believe they have a 4 hour flex that starts when you hit the first gate. For me that is perfect, my legs can take more than 10 runs. I have argued this point before, seniors have been skiing all their life, those in the sport so it wouldn’t hurt for resorts to give back. How many 65 plus skiers, ski at a resort? Whitetail gives seniors a whopping 12 bucks off, sarcastically saying, already a high price. It also seems that CV has an early season lift ticket price, where WT charges the same price for half a product.Just my .02 cents worth.It all depends on what Mother Nature will provide this season.
Appreciate the sentiment, but disagree that seniors over 60 have "been skiing all their life." I travel with quite a few people who didn't start skiing until after age 50 or 55 when they had the time and money to check out the idea of sliding on snow. I also know adults who didn't start skiing until after they decided to see if their kids would like the idea. I ski with seniors over 60 who are skiing more varied terrain than they did in the past, with the help of lessons. That includes a few friends who were advanced skiers in their teens.
To be fair Timberline did something similar when the new owners took over. The old owners used to report around 38 trails, but the report now shows 20 trails. Some of this was consolidating trails that were previously listed separately but some of this was removing natural-only trails such as Thunderdraft from the report. I am fine with this as long as the unlisted runs remain available and skiable when there is enough snow.
padjaski68 wrote:
As a side note, I thought it is interesting they are using deceptive advertising by saying they have 100% snowmaking coverage on all 26 trails. Hmmm, after comparing the trail map and daily trail reports. They decided to eliminate 20 trails this year and increase their snowmaking coverage from 75%, lol.
C'mon Canaan!
Im curious - did Timberline make an offer to operate Canaan Valley? Do you have any more details on that?
Thanks!
nickhaas212 wrote:
Can we just say that CV is great on a powder day and their operations are lacking all the way around? I used to love coming here, but the management and infrastructure for snowmaking have always been the two biggest problems. Their lifts are fine. They can keep being mediocre because the rest of the resort excels and they have great deals on lift tickets and kids ski free up to a certain age. This brings in just enough revenue to be sustainable.
If the state can spend 8 million dollars on a Dopplemayr Pulse Gondola for one or both at Pipestem and Hawks Nest, I do not see why they cannot commit to one of their biggest and baddest parks.....
While I have been going off and on to the valley for nearly 30 years of my life, I can say that Timberline will always be king! It is one of my favorite mountains of all time and my home mountain. CV just needs to get a boost in quality. It is sad that they rejected Mr. Price's offer, but their loss....
I'm wondering the same thing. At this point in the season, what do they have to show for improved operations. Nothing, they made tons of snow on three beginner trails that the lift is down on and no transparency of what the issue is. One trail from the top at this point in the season.
Many of the areas close by are at least 50 percent open or more with terrain. Is it mismanagement, lack of funding or the state has no desire to truly make money on it?
If that is the case, lease the operations to a proven entity, if one is willing to get involved.
padjaski68 wrote:
Well there is some good news at Canaan, Gravity and Ramble seem to be getting some snowmaking love today!
Yep, blowing with the sled guns there. Also had a few of the new big fan guns going to fill in a few spots on near the top.
I used an Indy Pass day this morning. It was 9 degrees when I pulled into the parking lot at 8:45. Not as much wind as I feared though. I was mostly trying to remember the trails that my cautious intermediate friend might like. The groomers were in great shape. She was supposed to join me in WV but had a medical situation crop up and couldn't make it. Given the cold temps, I didn't go back out after going in to warm up after an hour. Only skied CV once before, and that was a short morning before I went over to Timberline for lunch and afternoon skiing. I'm back at Massanutten tonight.
There is still soft snow in the trees. I only tested edges in a couple places since I don't know the terrain at all. Spruce Run was skier packed and firm. In general, what I was thinking was "variable conditions" if you wandered around off the groomed.
